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Burma Wants the Bomb


Saturday, June 27, 2009

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Relations between Burma and North Korea have attracted intense attention in recent weeks, as suspicions grow that the two pariah states are joining forces in a bid to thwart international sanctions against them.

Two recent developments have greatly added to worries that these two countries are becoming a double threat to regional security.

The first was the departure of a North Korean cargo ship, the Kang Nam 1, from a port near Pyongyang on June 17. The ship is believed to be heading for Burma, and is currently being pursued by the US Navy, which may act on a recent UN resolution authorizing inspections of North Korean vessels suspected of carrying banned weapons or materials.  
 

Thakhin Chan Tun
The second was the leaking of documents and video footage showing caves and tunnels being constructed in Burma with the help of North Korean engineers—possibly as part of a controversial nuclear program by the Burma junta.

To learn more about the possible significance of these events, The Irrawaddy recently interviewed Thakhin Chan Tun, a former diplomat who served as Burma’s ambassador to North Korea from 1974 to 1975.

Thakhin Chan Tun, who was also the ambassador to Canada from 1969 to 1974 and to the People’s Republic of China from 1974 to 1976, is a veteran politician who is still actively working for national reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Burma.

Question: Thakhin Chan Tun, you served as Burma’s ambassador to North Korea from 1974 to 1975. Can you briefly describe bilateral relations between the two countries from then until now?

Answer: It was very good at that time. They paid great attention to us, possibly because it was the beginning of our diplomatic relationship. But then, in 1983, Burma invited a South Korean government delegation to visit, and North Korea plotted to assassinate them at the Martyrs’ Mausoleum in Rangoon, killing 22 people. The South Korean president was fortunate to be late arriving at the place. They [the North Koreans] are the kind of people who can commit such crimes. They dare to do everything.

Now the US has imposed sanctions on Burma and the Burmese junta takes a hostile approach to the US. North Korea is also seen as an enemy of the US. So now [Burma and North Korea] are close again, as allies. What had happened in 1983 is no longer an issue between them. Since they both have a grudge against the US, the Burmese military has formed a new alliance with North Korea. I see the junta has also been trying to foster relations with Iran and Cuba, which are also antagonistic to the US.

Q: What differences do you observe in the relationship between the period of Gen Ne Win’s rule and now?

A: At that time, it was just a diplomatic relationship, based on the fact that North Korea was also a member of the Non-Aligned Movement. It was like the relationship that we had with other countries around the world. In the first year of formal diplomatic ties, Burma’s foreign minister [went to North Korea], and then U Ne Win and his daughter Sandar Win made a state visit. That’s it. We severed diplomatic communication after the bombing.

Now the diplomatic relationship has resumed without any apology from them. Of course, we should forgive them, if they apologize. But North Korea has never issued a formal apology to Burma. But it is should be considered absolutely necessary if the two countries want to resume normal diplomatic relations. However, I know that people from here were the first to approach the other side.

Now communications seem better. As far as I have observed, it is basically for military purposes and especially for weapons.

North Korea is smarter than Burma in terms of weapons technology. People from here want those weapons, and they want [North Korea’s] nuclear technology. I assume they resumed relations for that purpose.

A nuclear reactor is reportedly being built here, and if they want to make a nuclear bomb from it, they may need to receive the technology from North Korea.

Q: In the world of international diplomacy, how shocking is an attack like the bombing carried out by the North Koreans in 1983?

A: It is the most serious crime.



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singhnoi Wrote:
07/07/2009
Before the days of pyramids they buried leaders in tunnels.

delorean Wrote:
01/07/2009
Plan B,
This is not an "editorial". It's an interview. So why do you act like The Irrawaddy is making this stuff up? If this is what the man said, The Irrawaddy just has to report it.
If the monsoon is late, that is significant. I agree The Irrawaddy should write something about that. But that's no excuse to ignore news about Burma's relationship with N Korea.

George Than Setkyar Heine Wrote:
30/06/2009
North Korea is not only tunneling for Than Shwe and his thugs to hide from the people of Burma and the truth, but also looking for uranium as well.
This is a barter trade—uranium for nuclear bombs—between two rogue states.
The US should check the North Korean ship before it docks near Rangoon, as mandated by the UNSC.
Than Shwe knows China will sell him off in the very near future. Hence, he sides with the North Korean rogue to acquire WMD and hold the region and world hostage, like North Korea is doing now.
With WMD in their hands the world would at least think twice before taking action on the rogue regimes, as proven in the case of North Korea today.
They do not give a hoot or a damn about the UNSC, much less the US and others, as they have decided to take down humanity as well if they go.
Than Shwe is getting desperate and dangerous as well and the fact that that maniac is still in circulation does not augur well for the region and the world also.
Hence, Than Shwe is as menacing as Kim Jong Il today, I say.

LuuSoeLay Wrote:
30/06/2009
This is fascinating story. Everyone has a great point of view. Whatever is it, history always repeats itself, as we all know. All due respects, all good and evil are always dual like yin and yang by nature. And we know who are good and who are evil by judging their behavior, moral standards, etc. And we must all come together to support good people.
Good Days!

GoldenLand Wrote:
29/06/2009
After reading this article, I feel somewhat suspicious about The Irrawaddy magazine. They are not sincere enough when they present news to the readers. I don't want to mention what it is, because you know the lies are already there after reading the article.
I am a regular reader of The Irrawaddy, though.

Salai Bawi Wrote:
29/06/2009
Does Chan Tun think he is an IAEA inspector? The IAEA does not believe this story, and I endorse it. Myanmar may aim to have nuclear energy (not necessarily for weapons), just like other countries. Anyway, the junta is moving in a positive way, hope they will do good for the people. Every country in this world considers only themselves. Myanmar should do the same, but in a smarter way.

plan B Wrote:
29/06/2009
Presenting assumption as fact
hardly make this editorial credible.
What good will it serve if Burma is proven to be acquiring nukes?

Does "guilty by association" need to be added as a new element to the long list of SOS against SPDC? Has the vast dissimilarity between NK and Burma been lost on "The Irrawaddy," which is crying wolf?

Have more significantly ominous facts like the delayed monsoon meant anything to "The Irrawaddy" at all than just being a recent blip?
Given the fact that climate change may be affecting the ever reliable monsoon and may bring a calamity upon the Burmese farmers who depend on it , isn't it odd that all "The Irrawaddy" is interested in is the pure politics of rabidly trying to prove that SPDC seeks to acquire nukes.

Is there any redemptive value in helping the suffering of Burmese in this article/editorial?

Tom Tun Wrote:
29/06/2009
There are a few questions that come into my mind from this article.
(1) The Burmese Military proudly promote that they are the country protector from international and interior threats; isn't it their failure of the 1982 attack by North Korea?
(2) If a country tarnished sovereignty of Burma, should not Burma consider themselves as we are from different side of beliefs and friendship is impossible until formal apology takes place?
(3) So many Burmese regime supporters inside Burma want to reopen business relations with Western countries. On the other hand, these supporters critized the West's beliefs and ideologies at every chance they get, so, why should the West consider reopening business relations?
(4) Shouldn't Burma consider reality instead of patchy ideologies to sustain temporary interests?
(5) If the regime prepares to go down an unthinkable road, do the Burmese people realize that the entire population of Burma is in extreme danger?

Okkar Wrote:
28/06/2009
Chan Tun was ambassador to North Korea 30 years ago; his views of North Korea are out of date.

On the other hand, opposition media such as The Irrawaddy are trying to paint a picture of WMD in the vain hope that the US and the coalition of the willing might be tempted to invade Myanmar. This approach in itself shows how out of touch with reality the opposition groups are. Neither the US nor its coalition of the willing is in a position, be it political or economical, to launch another war based on false intelligence, be it low-intensity or conventional. Even if they could, they have more serious targets, such as Iran, Afghanistan, Al Queada, Hamas etc, which need to be dealt with before jumping to Burma to appease loudmouth oppositions. When will opposition groups understand?

All these exposés about military ties between Burma and North Korea and all the speculations about a nuclear bomb are pure propaganda by opposition groups.

Terry Evans Wrote:
28/06/2009
Chan Tun is just another one of Ne Win's old cronies. Burma needs to sweep out the old guard and get the 88 generation into decision-making positions asap.

Q&Q Wrote:
28/06/2009
Who let the cat out of the bag and for what purpose?

SY Alam Wrote:
28/06/2009
Thank you very much Thakhin Chan Tun. I am praying for your good health and for your long life. I admire you very much and you are a good politician, also you are a good diplomat among the Burmese. Thank you for telling the truth.

Moe Aung Wrote:
28/06/2009
"He (Kim Il-sung) used to live in tunnels..His home in Pyongyang was just for show. They were always expecting war and were constantly preparing themselves for that."

It's the same siege mentality at work with the regime albeit with one very important difference. The construction of Naypyidaw and the tunnels is in preparation against not so much an attack/invasion by the West as a renewed challenge by the oppressed peoples of Burma, whereas they desire nuclear capability as a deterrent against foreign interference in their continued misrule and human rights violations.

Moe Aung Wrote:
28/06/2009
"China understands the Burmese regime’s attitude well...but the idea that China will support the Burmese regime forever is wrong."

Thakin Chan Tun knows both China and Burma well enough to make this judgement which many of us will agree with.

It is a very common misconception and grave error to label the Burmese generals as China's puppets; the Chinese know the Burmese mentality only too well from a very long historical relationship. By the same token, the Burmese regime does not expect China to be their eternal ally, hence their overtures to both India and Russia as well as N Korea.

"There are many Burmese students studying in Russia and Russia considers them to be 'their' men. I assume Russia wants Burma to be its man."

Somewhat reminiscent of Indonesia's so called "Berkeley Boys"—army officers sent to UC Berkeley in the early 60s who played an important part in Suharto's coming to power, and also the "Berkeley Mafia" - Suharto's economic advisers in the ensuing years.




newmillennium3000 Wrote:
28/06/2009
I am so thrilled to read this article. Thanks, thakhin chan tun, for telling this. Otherwise, we won't know anything about burma.





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